Legalize Marijuana (“Marijuana’s Waterloo”)
All of the video (except for the “Incarcerex” piece) is from the Ron Mann film, “Grass — A History of Marijuana”. Song is “Waterloo”, by ABBA
All of the video (except for the “Incarcerex” piece) is from the Ron Mann film, “Grass — A History of Marijuana”. Song is “Waterloo”, by ABBA
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@Will200591K In fact I would take it one step further and say that the pot “myths” are they themselves myths, propagaded by supporters of marijuana in order to push a legalization agenda. Forgive me if that sounded a bit slap-dash but when the most responbiel trustworthy people I know tell me that pot is horrible for health and leads to pycholgoical and attitude problems further in life, I’ve seen that. To put it another way, ive never met an intelligent pot smoker.
@Will200591K No, I dont believe that the pot “myths” are myths at all. Ive dealt with many pot smokers in my life at my school, I dont care if you believe me or not, but when experts, including my health teacher and doctor tells me that smoking pot reduced brain activity, leads to health problems, and changes the attitude of the smoker, I believe them, not because I have some sort oif pathological need to, but because Ive seen it first hand. Im pretty sure those “myths” are 100% true.
@Will200591K Ive been around people who have smoked pot for an extended period of time, I just dealt with one today this morning, I bumped into a kid and we had a confrontation, a simple accidental shove of the arm and the kid became violent and lashed out at me, yelling threats. While I was countering the verbal backlash I noticed his eyes were a bright red on the ends and his breath smelled grassy, a weird smell. I soon put the pieces together, and a medically minded friend of my agreed.
@Will200591K Thats what makes drug and alcohol prohibition different, eliminating alcohol buisness puts people out of work, eliminating drug buisnesses, makes people safer from criminals. Im not supporting or against medical miarjuana, but I dont think its a neccisary or even useful aspect of our medicine. Its mostly used as a pain killer for kemotherapy, even thought kemoptherapy is the least effective way of treating cancer.
@Will200591K And the government doesnt have to tell you what you can put in your body, but who are YOU to allow drug lords to order the deaths of hundreds? Your actions in drugs connect lives of thousands, and other similar issues dont have that same variable. Alcohol prohibition didnt work for economic reasons that translated into social problems, not the other way around. The alcohol buisnesses could not handle the prohibiton and thousands were out of work.
@Will200591K Usually I would have to agree, but in this case, the federal government is not the main entity for the enforcement of drugs. I think that we should take the demand for drug enforcement down to a local level, stopping in the small time criminals of the drug empires, while federal FBI (In the same way the military is part of the government but still is acting in our best intrests, for the most part) take on the bigger challenges.
@GermanConquistador08 also sorry about your aunt those people who did that are truly disgusting and will get whats coming to them.
@paranoiastrksdp haha you still believe that mainstream media is confirmed fact do some outside research and learn buddy not everything they say is true.
@GermanConquistador08 although i dont blame you for being pissed at that other guy… people like him give pot a bad rap. Im not saying its the best thing in the world but it is faaaaaarrr from the worst. There are far more dangerous, legal, things to put in your body. On top of that smoking weed has not directly killed anyone. Most of the pot myths have been disproven so i would really like to know what factual evidence you base your opinion of disliking pot on.
You are well within your right to have your opinion on legalization. But that doesnt mean you should force it on others that dont share your opinion. Have you ever smoked pot? Or been around good people who smoke it? they arent harming anyone or doing anything terrible. They are people like you and me who just want to enjoy their plant and not be judged or harassed we dont want everyone who doesnt smoke pot to start so why should we stop cuz others have a different way of thinking.
@GermanConquistador08 Medical marijuana is not a scam it increases the quality of life for people with terrible diseases. I know you have dealt with some past issues of mj with your aunt and the cartel and what not but thats no excuse to deny people a medicine with less side effects and no harm to your liver especially when people are in so much pain and discomfort it dwindles their will to live, If allowing the sick to medicate was the only way to keep em alive would you still prosecute them?
@GermanConquistador08 while what you say is true i have to disagree. Why is it that we have to accept that the government has our best interest when the longer we watch them the more they prove they only look out for themselves and their wallets not to say all government officials are like that but its looking like it. Prohibition obviously hasnt worked. And besides who is the government to tell us what to put in our body if we arent harming anyone else or even ourselves why is it illeagal?
@FosterBoys Also, the reason that I debated with you with more respect than I did with paranoiastrsk is because he insulted my family, me, and my intelligence. Im sorry but when you heard the story of someones family member who was kidnapped by ruthless cartels and the responce you formulate is “Fuck your aunt” seems a bit discrediting. Thats all.
@FosterBoys Thank you. I appreciate that. Although, I dont believe that most anti-drug proponents are misinformed, but that they dont do enough research before the fact that drugs are bad, seems to work for them because they dont feel that they need to convince congress, strong supporters of legalization, or idiotic fellow students who are deadset on the belief that its 100% ok and try to convince ME of it. (A nicer way of peer pressure you might infer)
That is, you’ve treated ME with some measure of decorum, as your comment that I am responding to was not directed at me. Of course, you may actually feel that I am a f*ing moron, but you’ve had the courtesy of not calling me one directly.
@GermanConquistador08 Until you identified yourself as a juvenile, it was easy to believe that you were an adult, given that the arguments of legalization opponents tend to be so hopelessly misinformed and petulant. They, like most children have not yet learned that correlation does not equal causation.
However, since you have conducted yourself with some degree of dignity and respect, I will allow you to continue to post here, if you so choose.
@paranoiastrksdp Indeed I do. And Im actually proud of my conduct in this debate. Afterall I was argueing against someone who couldnt form coherent points, had no respect whatsoever and frankly, Im not embarred. I feel proud when I debate supporters of drugs. Its a topic Im very passionate on, along other political issues. But I do feel as though Ive failed. My goal was to get you seriously thinking about your position. Clearly, I have to get you thinking, but I cant say I didnt try.
@paranoiastrksdp I know about the Opium wars, China is also historically a monarchy with strong cultural traditions. The PRC ignores a lot of Chinese history and generally doesnt care about it citizens. And excuse me if I have doubts about your excersion to China. In a debate usually each member has to take each others word for everything, but why the hell were you in the middle of Southern Communist China? Why were you there?
@paranoiastrksdp First of all, to look at both sides, Johnston did fire on the officers but I agree absolutly. Civilian drug users cant be dealt with like common drug dealers should be. Here we have, SWAT bashing down civilians doors when they SHOULD be out smashing on the doors of gang hideouts. I disagree with the conduct of the drug war on a civilian level. However, supporters of drug actions need to be brought down in other ways, through fellow civilian and local police action for example
@paranoiastrksdp And Ive already explained why my name is Germanconquistador and if you didnt read hoo bloody rah. Moving on. And I just looked at that video it was a joke. All it showed was US soldier walking around poppy fields! Hardly the drug smuggling activities you spoke of. And yes I know US actions havnt been ideal in the middle east, I disagree with their conduct, but the Eastern hermispheres drug trade isnt what I’ve researched and know, and typically is not what I debate about.
@paranoiastrksdp Oh god. I have the sinking feeling that all I am is argueing politics with a college prick who smoked enough week to think that hes intelligent. As Katt Williams once said “There aint anything worse than a dumbass so high he thinks hes smart” (Paraphrasing of course) But very well I accept the challenge. If I didnt know anything about the topic than I would be able to argue it AT ALL! I DO use sources its just from both sides not just the pot smoking demographic.
@GermanConquistador08
You do know this stuff stays on youtube right? So now there’s a permanent record of your failure and embarrassment. 😉
@paranoiastrksdp Logically fallacies? You dont even know what that means! Wow. Fallacies of irrelevent conclusion or incorrect reasoning is the only thing I can think of. And Im sorry, but if your faunting that you are much older than I am, I have a right to think that maybe your not really as old as you say you are, or your extremely immature and wont take a debate for what it is. Hope you experience some bad luck in the drugs you so heartfully defend. Thank you and goodbye.
@GermanConquistador08
“tourist area”
Does the middle of the jungle in Guangxi province count as “tourist”y?
@paranoiastrksdp Im actually suprised about this. Unless of course you were in a tourist area, totalitarian countries usually have a well protected area for tourists. Also, crime statistics are gather by the UN and communist countries like Cuba and China self-report. According to Cuba, its a healthy, happy, crime-free country. Im sure even you know thats not true. Same with China.